14-12-2019, 00:03 | #3061 |
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Version 1.49 has been deploy.
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14-12-2019, 15:48 | #3062 |
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Thank you for new version, i hope today we will play first MP session with DW community.
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14-12-2019, 16:51 | #3063 |
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Grisha-V is Greate! But the save file with him does not load game (Hunginig up approx 75 percent).
Thanks a lot! PS RA 1.49 was instaled at clean DW 1.04 with the new .ini file. |
14-12-2019, 19:34 | #3064 |
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Good day!
The new mod is very interesting, great job! However, faced with the fact that for the "Grisha-V" and for the "Rogov" does not load the Loadout page. The game stops working, crashes. I have Windows 7, I play in window mode 1280x1024, 16 bit. |
15-12-2019, 21:04 | #3065 |
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https://youtu.be/I9gMJFPRbrs
It works for me. Win7 x64, window mode 1024x768 16 bit (video rescaled to 720p) Btw Rogov weapon load screen is not recommended to click - read about it in USNI ownship information. If you did it, delete from root folder: 592_1731_playername.lod |
15-12-2019, 21:24 | #3066 |
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I did test in 1280x1024 (only full screen) and it works.
I cannot test it in window mode in 1280x1024 because my monitor native resolution is 1600x900 and i cannot select weapon loadout screen. |
20-12-2019, 22:23 | #3067 |
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Small bug report. In database we have no damaged or destroyed 3D-model for Norvegian diesel submarine Type 210. When this sub was killed, she was disappearing.
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09-02-2020, 20:54 | #3068 |
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According to latest discussion on russian language forum 667АТ is interesting choice but im affraid nobody will play it in MP scenarios. Its still big and low maneuverable submarine in comparison to any SSN's from the years when Yankee Notch entered to service (88-91). Also main weapon are LAM's - not very often used in scenarios. This sub will be very easy prey for any western submarine.
Polls on VK shows russian community prefer to play ultra modern submarines - like Seawolf. But MP scenarios with ultra modern submarines are not fun to play - players prefers little older submarines because they have possibility to detect and kill enemy. Its really hard in battles Seawolf vs Akula III. The same is with adding SS-N-21 Sampson to Sierra II. In my opinion its no needed because these missiles were ONLY LAM variant with conventional warheads. All "shitstorm" is because some russian players things it was universal missile able to attack surface ships and land objects. I'ts not truth. Naval version was different than land version and submarine version was limited only to LAM role. About Foggy morning scenario. It was designed only for 1 purpose. As simple scenario where players can test new platform added in latest RA release. It's because most of players cannot make simple missions in editor and they choose "quick mission" - most idiotic part of DW because all platforms starts too close to eachother and sometimes goals are not possible to complete (like kiling satellite) But Foggy morning is still good designed. For example scenario informs player where he can use time compression and when he should back to normal time scale. Adams is not easy for mission designers because most of ships are from later time. Even older submarines uses modern weapons (entered to service few years later than Adams DDG) This mission is simple but not easy because enemy can launch 53-60M wakehoming torpedo with speed 70 kts from range far beyond Adams sonar can setect submarine in "normal mode". New platforms are always nice gift for players but if i could choose more important to me is eliminating bugs - mostly made by sonalysts. So when Ivan asked me about adding polish Perry i convinced him its not needed. Also i wasn't initioator of adding latest new platforms. i was sure it will be only Adams. I was surprised with Rogov and Grisha. Rogov still waits for MP scenario. Grisha is used in Polyarny morning Tea - very liked by community scenario for 5 players. |
10-02-2020, 14:28 | #3069 | |
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10-02-2020, 23:06 | #3070 |
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10-02-2020, 23:42 | #3071 |
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10-02-2020, 23:47 | #3072 |
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Nope - you have wrong information. Any sources?
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11-02-2020, 00:26 | #3073 |
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http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-697.html
"Types of warheads: - nuclear, with a capacity of 200 kt - the main type of warhead. - explosive - according to Western data, it was developed and, possibly, installed on missiles placed on boats (unlikely)." "Носители (Rocket carriers): - ПЛ пр.633РВ - опытовая ПЛ разработки КБ "Малахит" (главный конструктор Р.А.Шмаков) для испытания ракет и торпед калибров 533 и 650 мм. На буксире ПЛ ПЗС-50 (ранее - С-49) пр.633РВ Черноморского флота. Севастополь, 2 апреля 2007 г. (фото - Дмитрий Стогний, http://forums.airbase.ru). - ПЛ пр.633КС - опытовая ПЛ для испытания КР "Гранат", разработка проекта опытовой ПЛ - СПМБМ "Малахит" (главный конструктор Р.А.Шмаков, технический проект - 1977 г.). ПЛ С-128 переоборудована в 1978 г. на Севастопольском морском заводе - установлены два носовых торпедных аппарата - пусковые установки калибра 533 мм. Первый пуск КР "Гранат" произведен 21 сентября 1979 г. В период 1979-1980 г.г. произведено всего 6 пусков КР "Гранат". Модель ПЛ пр.633КС в музее ЦКБ "Малахит" (фото http://pilot.strizhi.info) - ПЛА пр.671РТМ - VICTOR-III - ракета принята на вооружение ПЛА проекта 31 декабря 1983 г. (в апреле 1984 г. по др.данным). Испытания комплекса проходили на ПЛА К-254 пр.671РТМ на Белом море. ПЛА К-254 пр.671РТМ с дополнительным торпедным аппаратом для испытаний КРБД 3М-10 "Гранат" (http://www.atrinaflot.narod.ru). - ПЛАРК пр.667АТ "Груша" - YANKEE NOTCH - переоборудованная ПЛАРБ пр.667АУ с установкой отсека с 2 группами по 4 ТА расположенными под углом к диаметральной плоскости. Общий боезапас - 32 КР, в т.ч. 8 КР в торпедных аппаратах. Носитель ракет 3М-10 "Гранат" - ПЛАРК пр.667АТ - YANKEE NOTCH (фото - US DoD, http://militaryphotos.net). - ПЛА пр.971 - AKULA - первые пуски КРБД 3М-10 "Гранат" с головной ПЛА пр.971 К-284 проведены в январе 1987 г. на Тихом океане. Испытания вооружения завершены только в 1988 г. Одна из первых фотографий ПЛА пр.971 AKULA (вероятно, К-284 "Акула") опубликованная в западных СМИ (Soviet Military Power 1987. США. 1987 г.) - ПЛА пр.945 - SIERRA / пр.945А - SIERRA-II - ударные ракетно-торпедные ПЛА. - ПЛАРК пр.885 - YASEN - ударная ПЛА оборудованная универсальной ПУ вертикального пуска. При начале проектирования предполагалось применение в т.ч. и КРБД "Гранат"." .................................................. ....... Источники: Асанин В. Ракеты отечественного флота. (источник). "Государственный Центральный Морской полигон. 50 лет". Документальный фильм, 2004 г. РК-55 Рельеф - SSC-X-4 SLINGSHOT. 2012 г. Широкорад А.Б. Огненный меч Российского флота. М., Яуза, Эксмо, 2004 г. Штурм глубины. Сайт http://www.deepstorm.ru/, 2012 г. RK-55. Сайт http://en.wikipedia.org, 2012 г. Sorry for the incomplete translation |
11-02-2020, 00:49 | #3074 | |
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You don't understand 1 important thing.
SS-N-21 “Sampson” (RK-55) was with 200KT nuclear warhead or 410 kg HE - no doubt about it. But it doesn't means all versions were on submarines. This missile entered service in 1984. But in 1987 all submarine versions were convetred to HE only. And Sierra II entered service in... 26 December 1990. You wrote: Цитата:
And i remind you - all discussion was about Sierra II, which entered to service after conversion all warheads (for submarines) to conventional HE Nuke variant was mainly on land mobile platform. ------------------------ In my opinion fact that in RA sierra II haven't Sampson missiles is not problem because: 1. LAM missiles in MP battles are very rare used. 95% MP missions haven't reason for loading LAM's 2. In single player mission for Land strike attack you can use Akula or Victor submarines. And land strike missions are mostly very boring to me. 3. Sierra II in RA is mainly Hunter-killer submarine - no need land attack missiles. Последний раз редактировалось pepe; 11-02-2020 в 01:04. |
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11-02-2020, 01:29 | #3075 | |
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Well, I'm interested in LAM missions, including, I like to play single player. I understand that I can choose Akula or Victor, but what if I want to choose Sierra?)). Sierra was created during the Soviet era and it was supposed to use these missiles in particular. https://fas.org/nuke/guide/nep5text.htm : "The subsonic SS-N-21 Sampson, a 1,600 nautical mile (3,000 kilometer) range missile similar to the U.S. Tomahawk, was first deployed in late 1987. It is fired from Akula, Sierra, Victor III, and converted Yankee Notch class SSNs. It is estimated that some 30 submarines (four Akula, two Sierra, 23 Victor III, and one Yankee Notch) are capable of delivering the SS-N-21. These submarines carry an estimated 136 SS-N-21s. The SS-N-21 despite being declared operational in late 1987, may still not be widely deployed. In March 1990, the U.S. Navy described the "recent completion of a two year improvement program for the SS-N-21 land attack cruise missile, which probably focused on improving the SLCM's guidance/propulsion systems." The missile is thought to be in full scale production." |
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11-02-2020, 01:37 | #3076 | |
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https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/ss-n-21/
..and many other. As i wrote - your sources doesn't confirms nuke version was on Sierra II Цитата:
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11-02-2020, 01:52 | #3077 | |
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Yes, I know your source. Above, I cited a source where it was indicated that the equipped warhead was nuclear, and the existence HE-version is indicated only in the Western press and is doubtful. Thanks for the interesting discussion, for today I have finished. The topic is complex and practically unprovable because of its high secrecy. |
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11-02-2020, 02:40 | #3078 | |||||||
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Ok, let's check your source:
https://fas.org/nuke/guide/nep5text.htm Цитата:
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Btw i didn't answer you in previous post, because you add link and fragments of text after my post. Цитата:
Also you wrote (but you edited this) Sierra was first before Akula - which is correct - but it was ONLY 3 months! And of course if you wish to launch Sampson LAM from older sub, you can take Victor III. Цитата:
Also you showed it were only two Sierras. Its little strange because it means only Sierra II (Nizhniy Novgorod, Pskov) or Sierra I (Carp, Kostroma) were equiped with Sampsons. In my opinion it were Sierra II. Цитата:
edit: Let me explain why you are wrong. From the same source i take part about USN nuclear capable warships: Цитата:
But it doesn't means all tomahawks were with nuke warheads. It means these platforms were capable to use nuclear versions. Also it doesn't means every SSN, Battleships or Cruisers had nuclear warheads onboard. Is it clean? Последний раз редактировалось pepe; 11-02-2020 в 02:53. Причина: adding example from USN |
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18-02-2020, 23:38 | #3079 |
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The point is not even whether the conventional warhead of this missile was, from the point of view of any design engineer, why not. The point here is rather in the military doctrine of the USSR. Well, for whom would these boats use a conventional missile warhead? If these missiles were fired at US / NATO facilities, they would be nuclear. The thing is that this was not. This missile was designed to prevent this, an additional deterrence argument, in addition to ballistic missiles. And to shoot American cities and bases with conventional missiles when an atomic war is probably already underway, well, it's like throwing stones at a tank, the effect is equally useless.
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19-02-2020, 19:20 | #3080 | |
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DW was NOT designed to simulate full scale conflict and game engine is NOT stabile when scenario has too many AI warships. Also LAM nuke missiles were NOT able in real world to attack not static objects.
This should you wake up from your nuke dreaming Also for players it doesn't matter land strike was nuclear or conventional because player cannot see any difference. So if you so badly need to simulate nuclear land strike just use script for information: "this explosion was nuclear" You can make by script visible explosion effects like smoke etc - much better than nuke one Цитата:
Also using nuke weapon could escalate conflict to full world war - and this wouldn't be good choice for any side. Fortunatelly President of USA and "Heads" on Kreml knew that - funny only you have big problems with understanding so simple things. |
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