24-09-2009, 04:15 | #261 |
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Thanks Goldorak, that means I could use JSGME and install it via that than when new patches come out can do the same.
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24-09-2009, 04:22 | #262 | |
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Then if you installed the mod in the folder Dangerous waters\MOD\RA (for instance) you'll have to unzip the patch in this folder and NOT in the dangerous waters folder. The procedure I told you in the previous post was only for a standard DWX/RA installation. No jsgme whatsoever. |
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24-09-2009, 19:29 | #263 | |
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24-09-2009, 19:44 | #265 |
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Hi,
Many people have noted that the Alfa in DWX has an operating depth of 450 m. In real life the Alfa had a titanium hull that enabled this sub to go to great depths, I think much much more than 450 m. Can you guys consider the possibility of increasing the operating depth to something greater than 650m ? |
24-09-2009, 21:05 | #266 | |
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It is an easy Sub, actually hull not thick. |
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24-09-2009, 21:33 | #267 |
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To RA team: Question about SSK's Passive Sonar SL
Notice that all SSK subs in RA, their "Passive Sonar SL" either 50 or 49, one of the best SSK like Type212 have 49, but the old Romeo class have 50, too little difference, don't you think? in the Game, even with Virginia or Seawolf, within close range around 5nm, it is still hard to detect any SSK. at least it's not authentic in the real world.
or may be you do that for a balance game purpose? |
24-09-2009, 21:44 | #268 |
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Modern SSKs (of the air independent propulsion class) are deadly quiet.
Real life exercises between us navy and european subs (swedish gotland class subs for instance) have confirmed this. So its no wonder that even the Seawolf has difficulty finding one when going slow or still. |
24-09-2009, 22:32 | #269 |
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First of all thanks for your answer (it seems that you prefer english language).
Well, but you try to make it more real, do you? And you made Gepard's displays much better. That's why i asked you to make others also. |
25-09-2009, 00:01 | #270 | |
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Maybe the modders wanted to keep diversity with the different russian units. Really, be glad that Lada and Akula II improved have waterfall displays. As a russian player you can choose between the good ol' ssaz vs waterfall. Nato units don't have that choice. |
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25-09-2009, 00:02 | #271 |
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Hi, just last comment about request already done by goldorak and rejected by you.
Yes, alfa is a simple sub, but its characteristics include max.depth more than 800m: in our player group we always used this sub with yo-yo tactic to avoid mk48 hunting, just how should happen in real life. Please consider real features (please check janes or wikipedia, but is is a russian submarine, and you surely know it better than anyone): we feel that a max.depth more than max.dept for an mk48 should be fine, maybe more than 650m like goldorak already suggested. As already wrote, this is our last comment about this matter, then your decision will be accepted without any other note. Thanks for support and continue with your super job! |
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But there is no need to add new one. Just to make others same as A-II Improved.
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And finally about "maybe". Maybe so, maybe not, who knows? That's why i just want to know for sure (without "maybe") Ivan's position and opinion about that if possible. To calm down or to wait. Thanks for your reply. sertore Several russian issues show that Alfa has crush depth 400-600 m and operational depth 300-450 m. Titanium hull itself doesn't guarantee 800 m depth. Sierra has titanium hull but her crush depth is 600 m. Mike sub (built in 1984) with over 1000 m depth had not only titanium hull but moreover number of unique technical decisions such as main ballast tanks inside pressure hull, minimum number of holes/vents, abcense of torpedo loading hatch,etc. Lots of research were done many full/half scale compartments models were built for high pressure testing. And all these meres were done after first Alfa has been designed (built in 1971). Последний раз редактировалось Гена; 25-09-2009 в 02:30. |
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I don't have access to russian pubblications (and even if I could I wouldn't understand them since I don't speak and read russian) but I have an english book called "Cold War Submarines" by Norman Polmar. At page 281 he writes : Цитата:
The mystery remains though, why are western publications such as jane's continuing to use the 800m test depth estimate for the Alfa ? Its obviously wrong and many people continue to believe the Alfa has a 800m operating depth. |
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25-09-2009, 04:58 | #274 |
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Well western publications can do even more serious mistakes (alongside with sonalysts) unfortunately. For example 6 outer 533-mm torpedo tubes which are nonexistent on real akulas (according photos and russian issues). I think you agree that 6 nonexistent extra 533-mm torpedo tubes is serious mistake.
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25-09-2009, 05:18 | #275 | |
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I didn't even know SCS got the Akula wrong. Just how many errors like this are in DW ? Ah and DW was supposed to be as real as it gets (for a simulation). |
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25-09-2009, 05:50 | #276 |
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Hmm. For example 65-76 torpedo which SCS made as antisub weapon. Thanks CrazyIvan now we have real 65-76 as antisurface weapon only (as it was designed).
If i'm not mistaken SCS said that extra tubes were added for gameplay purposes Последний раз редактировалось Гена; 25-09-2009 в 06:15. |
25-09-2009, 07:59 | #277 | |
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25-09-2009, 10:45 | #278 | |
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There are no water pumps, of compressors and another - without what the nuclear sub can not normally function even at 0 knots. 50 points - are assumes the minimal noise on 0 knots. (however - any AI the diesel Sub is not capable in game to keep such speed - 0 knots. The features of physics, allow to establish AI to a electric engine the minimal speed only of 1 knots). Further - the gain of noise will occur according to value increase noise written in options Thrusts - under the known formulas. (For old Subs - these value are much higher - for example – gain for 212 – 25 points, and gain for Foxtrot – 35 points an electric propulsion) I poorly present that there are such subs which on are comparable on noise level with surface vessels. What sense then to build such Subs? However we do not exclude an opportunity a little to increase noise level by old subs - but certainly in reasonable limits. |
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25-09-2009, 20:27 | #279 |
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I always ask me, whether the Los Angeles and Ohio Classes did support in game the "Natural Circulation" of the reactor cooling circuit at low Speed and did they are similar quiet like an Dieses sub?
And another question: is it possible to change the depht scale from the German Type 212 from Feet to Meters? Or is it limitated by the Interface? |
25-09-2009, 20:59 | #280 |
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LA and OHIO can't be so quiet as SSK just because of they much bigger dimensions. And turbine still produce more noise than electric motor.
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