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Tesak 24-10-2018 08:10

Udaloi in 1.46
 
In multiplayer, the Udaloi earned the status of a ship with a strong air defense.
But we are playing a simulator, so it was thought to nerf its anti-aircraft missiles to real 8 miles.
I talked with Pepe about it, he completely agrees, but tests are needed to prevent the ship from becoming useless.

В мультиплеере удалой заслужил статус корабля с сильным ПВО.
Но мы играем в симулятор, поэтому появилась мысль урезания его зенитных ракет до реальных 8 миль.
Я поговорил с Пепе про это, он полностью согласен, но нужны тесты, чтобы корабль не стал бесполезным.

pepe 24-10-2018 11:08

For me 12 Nm is good for better game purposes even when real SA-N-9 range is shorter. (it helps to keep enemy helo/MPA away from Udaloy)
If you want to decrease range to 8 Nm it will be also ok. I agree for that, even if Udaloy is ship that I play the most :)

Udaloy CIWS still is much better than Perry's in RA 1.46

In my opinion CIWS should be "last hope" of defence - with small effectivenes (compare to current RA 1.45) not only on Udaloy but all playable surfs.
Im no military expert but i think real effectivnes is no higher than 30-40% (probably only 15% 25% )
In RA it's around 95% against subsonic.

RA 1.46 will make this aspect of defence more realistic for every playable and AI surfs

Don't panic mate :)

White 25-10-2018 23:42

ДАЁШЬ РЕАЛИЗМ
 
Я за реализм. Это симулятор прежде всего, а потом уже игра. Баланс в миссиях нужно находить иными способами, нежели равнение платформ под одну гребенку. И ежели приходится выбирать между и так коротким ПВО у Удалого и эффективностью 30 мм пушки, я выбираю меньшее из двух зол склоняясь к реализму. Вердикт - Урезаем ПВО!

CrazyIvan 28-10-2018 00:53

And missiles and CIWS - it's all air defense (PVO).
What did you mean?

PS: From the gaming point of view, launch the Gauntlet can not run in 3-5 seconds increments (in fact, the launch tube still is all ONE - like in Perry). More preferable - CIWS station.

Udaloy have 4 stations AK-630, instead of 1 Phlanks on Perry.
Of course - for the Udaloy, in addition, a stronger defense is the CIWS rather than the Gauntlet.

pepe 28-10-2018 19:16

Цитата:

Сообщение от CrazyIvan (Сообщение 145144)
Udaloy have 4 stations AK-630, instead of 1 Phlanks on Perry.

But maximum 2 CIWS can open fire to single target

pepe 02-11-2018 18:12

Test video from released 1.46

https://youtu.be/H3-MfFFD5us

Replay since 14:48

Link to scenario:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yE_...tFCSV0mC8/view


COMMENT:

Udaloy is still very good playable ship for missile defence.

In this test scenario were launched 20-22 missiles from AI Los Angeles Flt III

First wave defended only with CIWS and Chaffs (in EMCON)
Next waves of missiles with both radars ON

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The same test for Bergamini:

https://youtu.be/44172mbuBWY

Radars all the time are ON

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Last test for Perry:

https://youtu.be/oZTLoJQw-5U


All ships have chances for simultanous missile defence. Each ship do this in little different way.

:D


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